This issue is related to an improper crimp on the transmission wiring harness. It might have a slightly different feel in the other models since they use a different final drive gear. Woes mount for 9speed automatic transmission, latest recall covers. First, it delayed the cherokee release by several weeks 1. Failure to use the correct fluid may affect the function or performance of your transmission. Zf unveiled the worlds first ninespeed transverse automatic transmission in june 2011, starting production in 20. Dec 02, 2018 the 9 speed zf 9hp automatic transmission warranty will be extended to 6 years or 100,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first. For our van, the transmission has difficulty selecting the proper gear. Purchased 4 additional credits to unlock the tcm on my 2016 cherokee v6 3. Zf 9speed automatic problems mount, chrysler releases. Does anyone know why acura didnt use the zf 8 speed transmission instead.
Fixing the issues nine speed tranny gets software and hardware updates. Honda lurches ahead with pesky 9speed transmission chicago. Zf 9hp automatic the allnew 2014 jeep cherokee was noteworthy for showing off the worlds first ninespeed automatic transmission produced by german transmission pioneer zf. We found the 9 speed and ids system to work flawlessly, and did. I did have issues even reading the file to begin with and did submit a ticket. All about the zf 9hp 9 speed automatic transmission youtube. The 8hps ratio spread is 7, just 1 higher than a 6 speed while the 6speeds had a 3 point advantage over the 4speeds. Com one of chryslers most ambitious features of the jeep cherokees rebirth in 2014 was its standard and highly technical ninespeed automatic transmission from zf friedrichshafen ag. Aug 09, 2016 zf recall hits 505,000 vehicles with 9 speed automatic transmission faulty control sensor could cause the transmission to randomly drop into neutral while driving by zac palmer. Car and driver reported similar complaints and issues with many other vehicles equipped with the zfsourced 9speed automatic that range in. For owners, how is the 9 speed transmission in the passport.
Aug 09, 2016 fivespeed automatics have given way to six, seven, eight, and ninespeed gearboxes, with a new 10speed transmission becoming available for 2017 in talk about an odd couple the ford f150. Many customers and critics have complained about this transmission, particularly in the popular cherokee. Agreed, but the update for the 2019 was both software and some internal parts details of exactly what that update was remain sketchy. March 2, 2018 a chrysler 9speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit may finally be reaching an end as. Why does the new 9speed auto in certain chrysler, jeep, honda, acura, fiat and range rover products feel unusual. Fiat chrysler agrees to classaction settlement, but transmission.
After experiencing problems with the fiat chrysler ninespeed zf 9hp automatic. March 2, 2018 a chrysler 9 speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit may finally be reaching an end as. The 9 speed is built for economy and is usually programmed by the vehicle manufacturers for economy. Zf recall hits 505,000 vehicles with 9speed automatic. By the way, the software updates are mostly 2016 my, our 2017 was great out of the box.
Rather than a physical fix, zf is issuing a software update to remedy the problem. Aug 08, 2016 zf 9speed automatic problems mount, chrysler releases third software update jeep cherokee 9speed automatic gets second update for rough shifting ratios galore. Fca and plaintiffs work toward a settlement in jeep cherokee, renegade and chrysler 200 lawsuit. I have only 2,000 miles under my belt on the zf 9 speed but did 70k with the 6 speed on my 2017. My wifes bmw x3 has the zf 8 speed and its by far the best automatic transmission ive ever driven. Owned a 2015 mdx and a 2017 pilot exl, the latter i chose specifically because i didnt like the performance of the mdx 9 speed. I wouldnt want a 9 speed auto anywayno need for more than 6 speeds. It is likely rough, under some conditions, because the intelligent learning system transmission and software was not able to coordinate the timing of brake in the transmission, clutch, and shift elements perfectly. The ridegline had some weird hesitation issues around the time of the first trans oil change, that the new oil resolved. The day after the update, the car basically locked up on her on the highway. Zf ninespeed transmission problems, recalls and praise.
Their trannys caused serious problems to jaguars and bmws large sedans all throughout the 2000s. Fivespeed automatics have given way to six, seven, eight, and ninespeed gearboxes, with a new 10speed transmission becoming available for 2017 in. Fixing the issues ninespeed tranny gets software and hardware updates. Especially in a zf 9 speed where 678 9 are overdrive gears and would require downshifting more than 1 gear to achieve a reasonable rate of acceleration. The ninespeed transmission manufactured by zf friedrichshafen ag, for honda and acura uses 16 percent less fuel than a sixspeed at constant speeds, although it. Im able to read the ecm and tcm however im not seeing any additional options for the transmission other than the 2 tabs as pictured below.
Chrysler delayed the jeep cherokees launch to tweak the transmission s software. We, the undersigned, represent a group of owners who purchased the allnew acura tlx in 2015 and are seeking action from acura to remedy poor transmission performance. Jan 25, 2016 the nine speed transmission manufactured by zf friedrichshafen ag, for honda and acura uses 16 percent less fuel than a six speed at constant speeds, although it takes some getting used to. The crappy 9 speed transmission is one of the many reasons i avoided the 16 pilot. Fiat chrysler executives say they are straightening out software problems with the automakers ninespeed automatic transmission, but nagging issues persist. Everything about your zf automatic transmission issues posted by the brutal beemer on 20 january 2015 i have found this amazing article about the transmission in bmw e90s so im reposting it here in my blog with updated pictures and part numbers to match zf 6hp21. We almost didnt buy the passport out of fear of the 9 speed, but its been great, no issues, and the extra gears really make a difference under load.
Chrysler delayed the jeep cherokees launch to tweak the transmissions software. Each car manufacturer is responsible for creating the software that controls. The zf 9hp is a ninespeed automatic transmission built by zf. Im not sure how big of a fuel savings there is going from 8 speed to 9 speed.
Jul 10, 2019 in 2015, zf supplied tips for driving cars equipped with its 9 speed automatic and said american driving styles, and the transmission s adaptive learning could be attributed to lumpy shifts. Nov 14, 2016 all about the zf 9hp 9 speed automatic transmission duration. So how is the 8 speed hyundai transmission holding up. A series of technical service bulletins tsb prove the problem persists. Zf 9 speed transmission programming purchased 4 additional credits to unlock the tcm on my 2016 cherokee v6 3. Problems with the zf transmission surfaced first on the redesigned jeep cherokee in may 2014, months after fca delayed the new vehicles launch by several weeks to recalibrate the transmission software. When i test drove, the transmission easily could have been a kicker for me, it was not. Yes, the transmission fluid for the 9 speed transmission which your 2016 touring model has does require the honda 3. Based on our experience, acura has made the right transmission choice for mdx. Fiat chrysler recalls nervous ninespeed transmission. Dec, 2018 they commissioned zf friedrichshafen group lets just call em zf to build the first 9speed automatic transmission for a consumer vehicle. The 9speed zf 9hp automatic transmission warranty will be extended to 6 years or 100,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first. There are software upgrades but they do not fix the problem. Its the new reality of smaller displacements, turbos, and multi speed transmissions.
Zf9 speed transmission problems continue to plague jeep. With the 2017 chrysler pacifica, has fca finally sorted. Especially in a zf 9 speed where 6789 are overdrive gears and would require downshifting more than 1 gear to achieve a reasonable rate of acceleration. All of the manufacturers program it to upshift as soon as possible for maximum efficiency and fuel economy. Zf claims that it is able to save an average of 16% in fuel compared with current 6 speed automatic transmissions.
Jeep 9 speed needs a reset again 3rd software upgrade software tweak aims to smooth out issues with cherokee shifting the dog clutch is the linchpin that allows chryslers nine speed transmission to be so compact. Last month, jeep said it would recall 2014 cherokees equipped with a 3. Woes mount for 9speed automatic transmission, latest. Honda lurches ahead with pesky 9speed transmission. Zf recalls ninespeed automatic for random drops into neutral. Zf 9 speed automatic transmission for chrysler and dodge cars at. The gears have a wideratio spread, roughly 50% more than the average 6speed or cvt.
Apr 19, 2015 as to the zf 9 speed automatic transmission and ids. Oct 18, 2017 the zf 9 speed transmission, created to increase vehicle performance level and fuel efficiency on the road, has continued to be problematic for certain jeep, chrysler, acura, fiat. Nine things about the jeep cherokees ninespeed transmission. Oct 16, 2014 i like how the 9 speed works in my trailhawk. Therefore, the zf unit has lower numerically higher first gear and a. The cherokee and renegades 9speed transmission suffers from hard shifts. Another fix for jeeps troubled 9speed automotive news. Sep, 2016 its the new reality of smaller displacements, turbos, and multi speed transmissions. And thats coming from a guy who doesnt necessarily like automatic transmissions. Gear issues anything helps thank you 2017 tlx shawd. Zf 9speed automatic transmission for transverse engines. What you need to know about zfs recent 9speed recall my. Source, who is knowledgeable about the taxi torture test being conducted. Zfs 9speed 9hp transmission puts dog clutches on the leash.
This means there are enough gear ratios in this zf 9 speed transmission to provide. My test drive with it surely turned me away from the elite andor touring model that i had my sights set on. With the 2017 chrysler pacifica, has fca finally sorted the. Day to day driveability feels remarkably similar as the zf starts in 2nd gear in d, so really a 7 speed as 9th doesnt kick in until expressway speeds. The dealer said theyve seen at least 30 odysseys with the same issue. Sergio marchionne, ceo of fiat chrysler spoke with automotive news reporter larry vellequette about the future of v8 engines and the zf 9speed automatic used by chrysler. Zf recall hits 505,000 vehicles with 9speed automatic transmission faulty control sensor could cause the transmission to randomly drop into neutral while driving by zac palmer. Everything about your zf automatic transmission issues. As to the zf 9 speed automatic transmission and ids. Problems with the zfdesigned ninespeed automatic transmission are. The transmission has a torque range between 280 and 480 nm. Had marchionne said the 9 speed is still having issues only 3 months before the new minivan is revealed, it would be a cloud over the unveiling.
A nice explanation of the zf 9 speed acura tlx forum. What you need to know about zf s recent 9speed recall if youre the owner of a jeep cherokee, chrysler 200, jeep renegade, or ram promaster that rolled off the assembly line during 2014 or 2015 and is equipped with a 9 speed transmission, you may have recently been surprised by a letter informing you of a transmission recall. Gms new 9speed automatic explored indepth gm authority. Zfs 9speed 9hp transmission puts dog clutches on the. Zf recalls ninespeed automatic for random drops into. Jun 09, 2018 2017 honda ridgeline 2016 honda pilot transmission fluid and filter change, yes there is a filter. Zf is not nearly the premier automatic transmission maker in the world. Zf 9speed automatic problems mount, chrysler releases third software update jeep cherokee 9speed automatic gets second update for rough shifting ratios galore. Since then the dealer has updated the software 3 more times, changed the valve body in the transmission and fixed some wiring issues. At that time, a dozen owners reported vehicles shifting into neutral and poor shift quality. Problems with the zfdesigned ninespeed automatic transmission are continuing to pile up, with customer complaints continuing to roll in regarding new jeep, chrysler, and acura models. My dealership assures me the new tranny will be fantastic. Dealer could find no issue, all software up to date.
In 2015, zf supplied tips for driving cars equipped with its 9speed automatic and said american driving styles, and the transmissions adaptive learning could be attributed to lumpy shifts. Rather than a physical fix, zf is issuing a software update to. The zf 9hp is a ninespeed automatic transmission built by zf friedrichshafen ag subsidiary. Feb 04, 2015 problems with the zf designed nine speed automatic transmission are continuing to pile up, with customer complaints continuing to roll in regarding new jeep, chrysler, and acura models. Zf 9speed automatic transmission for chrysler and dodge cars. The transmissions are stopstart, hybrid, and allwheeldrive capable.
Our firm has handled over 1,000 claims dealing with the struggling performance of the zf 9speed transmission. The passport 9 speed performance is much better, its smoother, less sluggish from stopped position, littleor no jerkiness. Honda pilot 2017 transmission problem lampe youtube. Zfmopar 9speed fixed, v8s to continue allpar forums. Some joyless people in this world cant let go of their crusade against the zf, for the rest the latest software solves any concerns. Im able to read the ecm and tcm however im not seeing any additional options for the. Way before i got my 2015 genesis i researched common issues and recall seeing a number of 2012 transmission failures on the gen 1 board, which was the first year of the inhouse transmission. Complex designs tend to come with complex problems. Looks like the 8speed in house hyundai built transmission in our cars is holding up pretty well so far. Zf 9speed automatic transmission for chrysler and dodge cars at. Fca and zf issue recall on ninespeed automatic transmission. The lawsuit says the extension is calculated from the date. The reason zfs 8speed 8hp doesnt have the same delta in performance over the average 6speed as the 6speed had over the 4speed, is easy to explain.
Zfs 9speed design gave decent acceleration to heavy vehicles while maintaining an extremely compact design. What you need to know about zfs recent 9speed recall if youre the owner of a jeep cherokee, chrysler 200, jeep renegade, or ram promaster that rolled off the assembly line during 2014 or 2015 and is equipped with a 9speed transmission, you may have recently been surprised by a letter informing you of a transmission recall. Zf has said this is due to software problems, not mechanical issues. Com one of chryslers most ambitious features of the jeep cherokees rebirth in 2014 was its standard and highly technical ninespeed automatic transmission from zf. It didnt take long for the transmission to start causing problems. I question gms and fords enthusiasm over their claimed 7. Its unusual that there is so many that appear to be happy with the 9 speed while some have very real problems with it. The zf 9hp 9speed automatic transmission in the pilot should also provide a bit more engaging experience as it was reprogrammed with new software. Zf 9speed automatic problems mount, chrysler releases third. Mar 02, 2018 fca and plaintiffs work toward a settlement in jeep cherokee, renegade and chrysler 200 lawsuit.
The acura mdx has the same issues and the same 9 speed transmission. Our firm has handled over 1,000 claims dealing with the struggling performance of the zf 9 speed transmission. Chrysler 9speed transmission lawsuit awaits final settlement. The 8 speed is a rear wheel drive transmission intended for performance and luxury cars. All about the zf 9hp 9 speed automatic transmission duration. Like many of you on the forum, i leave my tlx in sport mode for more responsive shifting. The zf 9speed transmission, created to increase vehicle performance level and fuel efficiency on the road, has continued to be problematic for certain jeep, chrysler, acura, fiat. Chrysler 9speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit nearly settled. Today the dealer admitted that there is a known issue with the 9 speed transmission. I like the 9 speed but im a zf fanboy after owning 2 rams with the zf 8. What you need to know about zfs recent 9speed recall. March 2, 2018 a chrysler 9speed zf 9hp transmission lawsuit may. Ninespeed 948te automatic transmission jeep renegade forum. Hondas transmission issues can be traced all the way to the grenades they used in the 78 accord on forward.
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